In my November round up post, I noted how efficient and helpful British Gas had been. Well, I'd like to note my recent dealings with another big company: O2. Unfortunately, it didn't go as smoothly as my experience with British Gas.

Do you remember my post from early last year when I talked about getting a new mobile phone? A lovely phone, a great deal, all was fine on that front (apart from the lousy reception in parts of this house). But one day in late October, I got my nice Samsung U600 from my bag to send a text, and what did I find? The screen was black - not a flat black, but a sort of 'glowy' black. The touch buttons were lit up bright white - they're not normally lit up at all. Hmmm. I tried to use it but it didn't want to play. I took the battery out, put it back in again ... nothing. I put it on charge - the bright white light just got a bit brighter. The screen remained black. Oh dear: The lights were on, but there was definitely no telephonic features at home.
I called O2 - the first person to whom I spoke suggested I took it to an O2 shop. There isn't one anywhere near where I live, and I didn't get the phone from an O2 shop in the first place. The next person to whom I spoke asked me to return the phone to a specific address, which I did. A week later I got a call to say it was deader than a dead thing, and they couldn't offer me a 'like for like' replacement since they had no more U600s. I was given the choice of 3 other phones: I knew nothing about any of them, so googled a bit, which just resulted in my getting even more confused. I went into our local Carphone Warehouse where I spoke to a very helpful chap. He told me (in his professional opinion) not to touch one choice as it was always being returned to them, that another choice was a good solid phone; and that the third choice was 'great fun'.
Given those three options, what would you do? I plumped for the fun, and eagerly awaited the arrival of my new phone. Fast forward 4 days and it still hadn't arrived. I checked on the O2 website under the function 'track my order', to find they had marked it 'delivered' ... only trouble was they delivered it to our old address (even though they knew our new address!) How frustrating is that? I called O2, who apologised for keeping me on hold for 10 minutes whilst they tried to locate the phone, but didn't apologise for delivering it to the wrong address in the first place!
When it did get delivered the next day BY AN O2 COURIER (remember that bit - it's important), it was apparent that it wasn't a new phone. It wasn't in its 'proper' box, had no software, no leads, no earphones and no manual. O2 told me they always replace faulty handsets with reconditioned ones, and as I was 10 months into the contract, I guess I couldn't really complain. I had to download the software direct from the Interweb, and found an online manual (just as well, as I couldn't work out how to switch it on :-O *blush* ).
Anyway, there I was with my reconditioned Samsung Tocco F480:

It's a touchscreen phone, which I slowly got used to, and is very pretty. I managed to use the Bluetooth to transfer a picture of a sock monkey as my wallpaper, and to put some ringtones on there. All ok and feeling very much like 'my' new phone. Or so I thought.
When the first person I talked to commented that it was a shockingly bad line, I thought little of it. When the second person said 'what on earth's that awful noise?' I began to wonder. However, subsequent calls were all the same - I could hear, but the person to whom I was talking heard horrible loud crackly noises, and could hardly hear me at all. It didn't matter if I was indoors or out, or where I was - it was always the same. Now call me strange, but the main thing I want my mobile phone to do is to allow me to communicate telephonically with others.
I called O2 from the handset. "It's a dreadful line!" they said. I said no, it wasn't, that was what this phone 'did'. I was told they didn't have anything else in stock to offer me - could I call back 48 hours later? I did. I called from the handset again, and once more they commented on the background noise. They said they still had nothing in stock to offer me as a replacement, so they transferred me to the Returns Department. They didn't have anything in stock to offer me either, so could I please call back 48 hours later and see what they had then? Bear in mind, this was now over 2 weeks since my original phone (still in warranty) malfunctioned. I called back 48 hours later - this time the O2 operative told me it was such a terrible racket he couldn't hear me. Would I please call from a landline? I did. I was told they still had nothing in stock to offer me - could I call back 3 days' later?
I wasn't a happy bunny. I called Trading Standards and on the telling of my story was given a reference number. If TS give you a number, you have a case. The guy I spoke to then advised me what to say - in writing - to O2. Apparently if you use certain language it is clear that Trading Standards are involved, and the company with whom you are dealing tend to take more notice. I posted off my letter by recorded delivery the next day. I also copied it in an email to their Customer Service Department.
Within 2 hours I had received an email in response:
Unfortunately, we were unable to arrange a replacement handset for you because the address you claim to live at is invalid. This will either be because it is a business address, or it is not registered.
The address you supplied is:
{{{insert my home address}}}
Please note: {{***}} (the couriers we use) are an independent courier service who will deliver to valid residential addresses only.
Please contact us on **** *** **** and supply us with a valid residential address for your handset to be sent to.
Thank You
So ... the address to which they had delivered the faulty handset a week earlier, using their own courier, was now an 'invalid' address and their courier couldn't come here. How bizarre is that? I responded to the effect that it was neither a business address nor an invalid one, but was a house to which they had already delivered! But no - they wouldn't have it. They insisted I return the faulty Tocco, and on receipt of that, they would send me another replacement Tocco - but only to a 'valid' address - ie. not mine. I had to give them my mum's address in the end.
I returned the faulty phone and within 48 hours another was delivered to mum's house. Like the first Tocco it wasn't in a 'proper' box, or with cables, software or manual, but it did work. I'm now used to the touch screen, and am gradually finding my way round the user interface. It's a great little phone, and I recommend it to anyone considering upgrading their current handset.
About 10 days later, I had a call from a chap called Andy in the O2 Complaints Department. He was very nice, but then I guess it's his job to be very nice. He said all the right things - apologised for the c*ck-ups and said he couldn't understand the mix-up over my address being 'invalid'. And then he gave me a hefty credit on my account by way of compensation. Previously, I have always found O2 an excellent company with whom to deal - they've put right what went wrong, and you can't do more than that, can you? But crikey, it was a bit frustrating in the middle of it all. Let's hope it was a one-off, eh?
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I suspect not, somehow. Perhaps one (the only?) useful outcome of a recession will be the fact that these big companies finally take on board the fact that we're paying their wages, bonuses, dividends (out of taxed income) and so on and therefore need treating with appropriate respect? Let's hope so!
We can probably beat that with the saga that I could tell you about Mesh computers (if I had the time).
All I can say is never touch a Mesh computer...and ours was not bog standard but top of the range. We won in the end...but not until after a whole year of grief.
These things don't help your stress levels eh?
Hope you are enjoying your phone ;-)
i so hope it was a one off - but better not hold your breath!
xxx
Don't you just hate all the wasted time though! That is what frustrates me most with things like this. When our internet connection packed up last year I spent hours on the phone (to India) trying to sort it out. Grrrr!
Very frustrating isn't it. I'm glad it turned out to be a happy ending though!
How frustrating. Glad it turned out OK in the end though ;-) I really hate dealing with telephone companies. They always manage to make me feel like a complete moron as opposed to my customary mildly demented condition!
That sounds like an absolute nightmare! You dealt with it really, really well - you should be proud of yourself! I'm really lazy - my husband is a solicitor, so when retailers or other service providers get awkward, I just say I'm going to pass the matter to my solicitor and give them his work address! OK, so they don't know I'm married to my solicitor (payment by services rendered, ahem) but that's not cheating, is it?
Kim xx
I remember you phone post...
I really like your new phone especially the touch screen... it looks so much easier to use. I'm a little challenged when it comes to cell phones!
Hi Mr Dot - I have to say, O2 have always been brilliant - until this whole episode. They've put it right, but when it comes to renegotiating my contract in the summer, I might have more to say on the issue ;-) x
Hi Sal - Oh my word, I don't think I want to know. Actually, I'd never heard of Mesh computers until now. Perhaps I'll just forget all about them again?! I must say I'm a 'Dell' girl through and through. x
Hi WW - No, I won't hold my breath. Blinkin' big companies, it makes me cross when they're so horrible. x
Hi Gina - Yes, exactly! Just a waste of time, and not being able to use the mobile meant I used the landline more - and that costs money! You try to be efficient and look where it gets you. So maddening. x
Hi Lazylol - Yes, frustrating is exactly the right word. Especially when they kept saying they'd got nothing for me. I bet if I were a new customer they wouldn't have nothing for me ;-) x
Hi Sharon - In the end, I got a phone worth more than my old one, and a nice bit of compensation on top. But was it worth the hassle? I don't think so. x
Hi Kin - It was a bit of a nightmare; it felt like it would never end. I think your approach sounds much more sensible. A solicitor is a handy person to have around! x
Hi Dawn - I really like the new phone too, but would rather I hadn't had to go through the hassle involved in getting it! It is a really nice phone, I'm very pleased with it. Believe me, if I can work out how to use it, you could do it standing on your head. x
Honestly, that doesn't sound much different from the customer service we receive here in the states.
My suggest. Grab a good Jimmy Hendrix CD and a a player. Make the long trip to one of their stores.
Dress like a hippy (I know you got the goods to pull that off)Paint a third eye on your forehead. Sit in front of store indian style. Play Jimmy, reach for the skyes chanting with Jimmy.
Pull out your phone on a small wrinkled up pile of newspaper. Light the fire and start to burn the phone. By now, you have a crowd watching.
Chant...."Evil phone, return to the bowels of hell from where you came and curse O2 for spreading your evil seed across this great land. (Make sure you sway back and forth wildly for effect.)
Someone may give you a new phone to get rid of you. Or you will be arrested. Either way, they may get your point. I'll post bail.
We got a new car about 6 years ago. Damn thing kept having one thing after another go wrong. One day the front end fell off. Yes...off. I picked it up and put in the trunk. With husband I went to the dealership who gave us a hard time about every repair and it as only 6 months old.
To my husbands horror, I calmly got front end from trunk, walked into the sales room and threw the front end of the car on the counter. Asked them if this was also covered and if not I was leaving car and front end there.
Humiliated, problem was fixed with apologies and a rental. Never had a problem from them again.
What can I say apart from I worked for T-Mobile for 11 years - it shouldn't but it happens all the time. I got yelled at so many times I can tell you. My advice is stick with a basic phone , don't go for anything fancy - the more stuff on it , the more chance there is of something going wrong...
Lisa x
Ah, Miss Kitty, it's nice to know that the problems on the Old Sod are much the same as over here in the Colonies. I love "Malicious Intent's" solution. Other than that, getting somebody in the media to take attention nearly always works.
What a nightmare for you! Ugh shall I now avoid O2. I am on virgin but it doesn't have many good deals.
It sounds exhausting .... poor you. I once had an issue with Hotpoint and wrote to 'Watchdog' about them (do they still have that show?) I sent Hotpoint a copy of the letter and they responded quicker than a flying bullet ... I used vodafone in the UK and never had a problem with them. Give them once more chance and if they don't stand up to your expectations - I say sack them ;-) and go with a different provider.
An interesting experience. I was considering moving to O2 because their customers get priority to the concerts at the O2 arena. Now I think I'll stick with T-Mobile.
Hi MI .. Ah, I don't have the necessary chutzpah to deal with it the way you dealt with the front end problem. I wish I did. I am happy with what I've got now - new phone and lots of credit - but it was a pain to get it. I felt the customer service was somewhat lacking. To say the least. x
Hi Peri - Ah, an insider view! I didn't yell at anyone - I realise they are just doing their job, but surely to keep saying 'we have nothing for you' doesn't really solve the problem. They should have acted more quickly and efficiently than they did. All's well now, but renegotiating my contract is going to be interesting! x
Hi Mr Cat - Oh I suspect it's the same the world over. After I blogged about the cr@p service I'd had from Mobileshop.com I had lots of hits on my blog from others (perhaps having the same problems?) I've written about this to publicise the fact - who knows whether it might make a difference? x
Hi Jennie - Long time no see - how are you?! The thing is, I'm still not sure I'd say 'don't go to O2' because apart from this, they've been brilliant. I used to be with Virgin, and can only tell you O2 are better than them! x
Hi Rachael - It was frustrating and felt like it would never get 'sorted'. Not speaking to the same person twice definitely didn't help. I have friends who have had problems with Vodafone - I guess all companies have their dodgy moments?! x
Hi Troy - As I said earlier, apart from this one experience, I'd heartily recommend O2. I've been with them for a while now, and am generally very happy with them. They are way better than Virgin, who I used to be with. Who is your current provider? I'm thinking of going over to O2 for my broadband once it's available here. x
So sorry to hear that you've had such an annoying time. You need chocolate!
What a mess! I've always found O2 to be really helpful...sorry, probably not what you wanted to hear!
Did I forget to mention that I'm with T-mobile? Silly me!
I have been down a very similar path with Verizon a time or two. They do seem to be a bit more responsive now than they used to be.
I have also had problems with my internet provider along the same lines. I think they got so frustrated with me that the last time the tech was out here to fix a problem, he gave me his cell phone number and told me just to call him direct when I had a problem.
Now that is the kind of customer service I like!
If I was you I would find out where their offices are and go there with a bat and smack around people in the parking lot. ummmm.... but that's just me. Glad things worked out for you.
OMG OMG O M G !!!!!!!
I would have been using nasty language and calling Consumer Affairs VERY quickly.I am glad it turned out ok in the end.but what a journey!!!!!
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DOWN WITH O2!
Hi Burby - Yes, chocolate is a pleasing medication. I've been taking plenty ;-) x
Hi Dragonfly - Yes, me too! They've always been brilliant until this. Lovely to 'see' you. x
Hi Troy - Do you know, I'm not sure you did forget :-p x
Hi Mike - I have ongoing problems with my ISP. Will maybe blog it one day - once I've switched to someone else. Glad you got some excellent customer service - I reckon the guy just fancied you ;-) x
Hi Ron - I'm a less 'direct' kind of girl. Your way would probably have got results a hell of a lot quicker than my way! x
Hi Blossom - I was speaking to customer services regularly: it was them who said they had nothing for me. Tsk. It was a tad frustrating. x
Hi Linda - What charming spam!
Hi Malach - No, not down with them, until I've used up my credit! x
Trading standards are great, I had bad customer service and things that go wrong when you have paid good money!!!
Why is everything so difficult to put right now? Everything involves lengthy phone calls, pressing loads of buttons, speaking to machines or being passed from one department to another. I suppose it keeps people in work!
Kitty,
Yeah that stinks there is so much compition in the mobile phone market I am sure that you will get a btter deal, in fact if anyone can you will !!
Laters
Nicey
Argh, so annoying. Good that they gave you credit, but if you'd needed to make an emergency call in the meantime ... it doesn't really bear thinking about.
Glad to hear you got there in the end! This reminds me of a similar problem I had with a phone from Carphone Warehouse. I eventually had a very loud strop in the shop and the manager was so eager to get rid of me that he sorted everything out and even gave me cash out of the till to get rid of me!
Hey Kitty! I hate this sort of stuff but at least you got a resolution finally. We are having a nightmare with out internet provider at the moment ARRRH!
Oh by the way how are those situp coming along? :)
Hey Kitty! I hate this sort of stuff but at least you got a resolution finally. We are having a nightmare with out internet provider at the moment ARRRH!
Oh by the way how are those situp coming along? :)
Oh my goodness, I don't have that much patience. I would have had a breakdown halfway through all that and cussed everyone I could get on the phone. But I'm glad it worked out in the end.
Gosh, Kitty...hope you'll not have another ordeal like that...hope very much this was a one-off! Glad you got credit at least...and all went up at the end. :o) Happy week to you all ((HUGS))
That sounds a Nightmare. I have a tesco mobile that does bu**er all except ring people, text people, and have addresses on it! Oh and some really crummy game from the seventies.
Does the job though. am a little partial, though, to the thought of a phone that does what yours does...I'll just have another look at that photo!
Hi Lin - They were good - the guy explained it all to me really well. I'm happy that O2 listened to me eventually! x
Hi FM - Tell me about it. The memory is slowly fading, but at the time it was driving me nuts! x
Hi Nicey - I reckon I've got an amazing deal at the moment - which is why I've been so happy with O2 until this latest c*ck-up. Fingers crossed it was a one-off. x
Hi DC - Quite! When the guy refused to talk to me unless I called from a landline, I felt it kind of proved my point. Maddening though. x
Hi Tilly - The man I saw in Carphone Warehouse was actually very good considering I wasn't doing any sort of business with him! Good for you though - I'd have made a bigger and bigger fuss if they'd left it. x
Hi Kellie - Keep on at those ISP people of yours - it pays dividends in the end, but my goodness isn't it frustrating when you're in the middle of it?! My ISP is next on my hit list ;-)
Sit ups? Erm ... what sit ups? *whistles innocently*
x
Hi SS - Every time I called I got a different person, so there was no point in going off on one at someone who was only hearing it all for the first time. Still tempting though ;-) x
Hi Tracy - I couldn't deal with it on a regular basis - once was enough! And in the end, I'm happy! Take care. x
Hi LWM - Oh, you have addresses? I have no addresses - probably because I haven't put them in there, but never mind. Actually, I'm rather pleased with this phone - it's pretty darned fab. So all's well that ends well ... I hope. x
Hello, yes its a phone!! And a Walkman and a 3.2 pixel camera!! x
Ack! All this sound very familiar, I am a veteran of o2 fights...but in the end they always 'pay uo and look happy', it's the getting there that's painful. Incidentally you might like to know that the inside info is that they operate a 'give the customer what they want' policy....you have to be pretty er 'firm' to get them to do that tho' in my experience! Well done for getting there in the end! ;o)
Yeah, see, I never did believe those "it's good to talk" adverts. A different company, I know, but they're all the same deep down, aren't they?
Still, I'm glad you got it sorted in the end, with a bit of TS muscle behind you.
:)
What a nightmare Kitty!! I just hate the time we have to waste to get things like this sorted out - not to mention the utter frustration of it all.
You may have convinced me to stick with my exceedingly basic pay as you go housebrick of a phone!
xxx
I just cannot bear this 'seamless' customer service idea we have these days. How is it that just any old person can deal with the same issue and give ninety different answers wasting everybody's time. Where is customer care and continuity? I used to work in a well-known hospital and we used to joke that the patients were there as a result of automated telephone services :-))
P.S I didn't mean to infer you are going there btw! Just sympathising with the general frustration x
I guess it shows their real nature tht you got there in the end, but they definitely need to sort out the middle ground. We are having issues here with a Sanyo TV
Hi Andrea - It's pretty, isn't it? Are you happy with it? x
Hi Gemma and welcome to my Bloggy Bits. That's a useful bit of insider information - most of the O2 people I spoke to were polite, they just didn't DO anything! Perhaps I need to be more direct? The letter and email quoting TS certainly seemed to hit the spot ;-) I'll be over to visit you soon; thanks for dropping by and taking the time to comment. :-)
Hi MM - I wonder how long it would have taken them to respond if I hadn't gone to TS? The whole thing was driving me even more bonkers than I am already! x
Hi Mrs Moogs - It was a bit of a nightmare, yes. A basic housebrick on PAYG is fine if it works for you. I found I was spending less by getting a contract and using the mobile during the day when my landline wasn't free. x
Hi Twinkles - It was maddening that I never spoke to the same person twice: had to go through the whole story every single time I called. I reckon you might be right about the 'inmates' and wouldn't be at all surprised if I ended up there one day! x
Hi Ali - Yep, that middle ground is just pants. Sorry to hear about your battle with Sanyo - stick to your guns! x
In my experience 'direct-ness' is the key....very firm and specific direct-ness! The staff are mostly polite but unless pushed they don't actually get anything done like you say. Speaking to someone higher up the food chain, a knowledge of the sale of goods act (you would be surprised how many big companies operate policies outside of the legislation, ok, maybe you wouldn't!) and promises of contracts cancelled usually do the trick!
Jeez...I sound like a proper complaining old moo now! ;o)
Ahhhhhhhh my head just reading it... no good with this stuff....
Remember rotary phones??? Those were simple and designed to WORK for many YEARS :) and oddly enough there were NO contracts! I think we've been duped...
I am amazed you didn't flip your lid. Good tip about Trading Standards, I will ring them next time I get so frustrated that I could scream.
heading a letter with the single large caps letter COMPLAINT seems to have some legal force... and i now have to stay and singalong to the soundtrack on your site, btw!
I do hope it was a one off, but none the less how annoyingly frustrating! Talk about run around and all on account of a phone! Ah well - at least it's pretty!
Dy
Hi Gemma - Yes, direct-ness is good, but sometimes it's really, really difficult! It was The Goods and Services Act which was flagged up in my case - The TS guy told me all about it, and told me what to write in the letter. Anyway, it worked! Thanks for your advice. x
Hi Suzie - Go and sew something hun - it'll calm your head down :-p x
Hi Ticharu - Oh yes, I remember those. Attached to a wire, so you had to sit in one place whilst you chatted. Blimey, now you can roam the whole house, or even go in the garden! But as you say ... no contracts back then! x
Hello Tawny and welcome to my Bloggy Bits. It was very frustrating in the midst of it, but I'm happy with the new phone now. Thanks for dropping by and taking the time to comment. I'll be over to visit you soon. :-)
Hi Grit - The TS guy told me what to head the letter - but I'm thinking your version would be just as good. Very pleased to hear you did Pink Floyd. Did you air guitar too?! x
Hi Dyan - As you say, the saving grace is that the new phone is a goodie - both function-wise and aesthetically. But yes, it was horribly frustrating. x
What awfulness? I had a huge saga with my cell phone also and it ended up with costing me quite a bit of money after my cell number was ported to another company in error. Many hours later and back and forth between the two companies I finally got it sorted but was out of pocket. SO frustrating!!!
Hi ATP - it was a total pain when I was in the midst of it. I just wanted to speak to the same person twice and for someone to actually DO something! Glad to hear you got yours sorted out, but surely you shouldn't be out of pocket - or aren't you on a contract? x
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